Blu-ray investment justified, says Sony

**JKKDARK** · August 3rd, 2007, 05:41

Originally Posted by F9zDark

Yeah... I was talking about consoles that didn't fail.

Then you must edit your post, because PlayStation 3 is a commercial failure actually

**Shadowblind** · August 3rd, 2007, 05:49

Originally Posted by JKKDARK

Then you must edit your post, because PlayStation 3 is a commercial failure actually

Well played Mr. Dark, well played....

I was thinking. can anyone give me a GOOD explanation as to why they don't know how to change disks? It sounds easy enough, you know...I suppose for people who can't use their arms or legs and would have to roll themselves over, but still. Paying $400 just so I don't burn the .01 calories to change disks still doesnt sound appealing at all.

**F9zDark** · August 3rd, 2007, 08:24

With Sony's reported Install Base of 6 million I fail to see how thats a failure... via: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/808/808656p2.html

(And before you noobs go arguing, INSTALL BASE means IN USER'S HOMES. And secondly, Sony would violate International Trade Laws had they fudged the numbers. So don't bother saying it, your points are already refuted, just accept it fanlosers.)

Secondly, developers don't give a rats ass about you wanting to swap discs. The days of disc swapping are over. Why? Because its more work for the developers having to make a 2 disc game rather than a 1 disc game and as far as the devs of PGR are concerned, its not extra effort they want to spend.

I am glad they don't want to spend it either. Micro$#@! should have known long ago that HD games will require more than 9 gigs of space to work. Games for PC have been surpassing 9 gigs for the last 3 years. Micro$#@! should have known this.

**Shadowblind** · August 3rd, 2007, 15:29

Originally Posted by F9zDark

I am glad they don't want to spend it either. Micro$#@! should have known long ago that HD games will require more than 9 gigs of space to work. Games for PC have been surpassing 9 gigs for the last 3 years. Micro$#@! should have known this.

That is true. I remember Black and White 2 (lol, 7 disks O_O) And FFXI (4 disks)

But there was something about them that can't corrolate to the PC and 360. The PC installs, and holds the memory for the game. Too bad neither of them do.

And six million PS3 owners? Fascinating.

**F9zDark** · August 3rd, 2007, 17:49

Originally Posted by Shadowblind

That is true. I remember Black and White 2 (lol, 7 disks O_O) And FFXI (4 disks)

But there was something about them that can't corrolate to the PC and 360. The PC installs, and holds the memory for the game. Too bad neither of them do.

And six million PS3 owners? Fascinating.

That is the difference between PC and Consoles. PCs can afford to use multiple discs for installation, and with ultra compression methods possible on PC, data can be compressed to fit on a DVD and simply uncompressed when installed.

Consoles don't have that luxury sadly.

The article about there being 6 million PS3 owners was an interesting read (not only for that; OLEDs look cool as hell), and when I first read it I was rather shocked, since units sold has been stable for the past few months at 4.4 million (depending on the source). However the price drop and E3 could have, in theory, sparked 2 million sales.

The IGN author mentioned that the speaker at the event assured them that it was units sold and not units shipped. (which is a common claim for people who reject Sony's information; that they are talking about units shipped not sold.)

**JKKDARK** · August 3rd, 2007, 20:38

@ F9zDark:

Units sold: 4.48 million+
Units shipped: 6 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playsta...es_and_pricing

**blakey87_1** · August 3rd, 2007, 21:12

Its obvious that more space is sensible in this day and age, I hope loading improves , although its not to bad, but vf5 takes quite long without part of the game installed on the hd