Nintendo Crack Down on Legal Homebrew

[zeromission80]

They still work from disc, just use the emu's from a dvd like i've always done.... much less hastle if you ask me:thumbup: of course this means modding your drive

[geise69]

Well...it looks like Wii homebrew is going the way of the PS2. You'll have to mod your system in order to run any homebrew. Kind of a shame. As for the games costing too much, I do agree somewhat. The N64 games are overpriced, so are most of the NES and Genesis games. However the TG-16 games and SNES games are very reasonable. Hmm...6 bucks for Airzonk on VC or 28-60 bucks on ebay? The same goes for snes games. 8 bucks really isn't to bad. I still have a regular tv so the games look great for me. I think the snes emulator on the VC is quite good, especially from the sound standpoint. SNES9X never had that great of a sound core. BSNES and SNESGT are the only snes emu's that are spot on for sound. Anyways this really does suck because I haven't messed with the SD Loader yet but have really wanted too. I still haven't updated my Wii yet and I might not since I haven't bought a VC game in a few months.

[chrisr321]

dammit
all this just had 2 happen at the same time the competition wuz goin on

[the_eternal_dark]

Yep, they want us to pay for games that we already own... Just so we can play them on a new system.

Same with the PSP playing PS1 games.

I'm totally sure you "own" the originals of the games you downloaded.....

People, you have some loose and weak excuses for downloading roms.

There is no way for Nintendo to actively check to see if you do really own those games or "own" them. Nintendo, Sega, Sony, etc don't have records of those old game sales to each individual. Plus, those games on the vc are really dirt cheap. I'd say leave emulation to hardware that doesn't already play the games natively. I do think that it would be called piracy to play those "backups" of the games that are available on the vc via an exploit, would you not agree?

My excuse? I am for the free exchange of "any" software available. My collection of roms I "own" grows daily.

I'm willing to bet that the emus for vc do get fixed in the near future, but only if everyone that has problems with them actually complains about them, not looking for another alternative to run them. And the price is probably to offset the costs of running the servers to host the games/apps for sale/download on the wii shop.

Funny eh? I love nintendo and emulation. I'm giving everyone a hard time, but just for the fun of it. Enjoy your stuff, you've paid for at one time, or even stuff you haven't bought. Its all good and inevitable.

[DimensionT]

80% of the stuff on the VC I do actually own... And still own. Why would I want to buy them again? Sure I'd be able to play them all with one little box, but then again I could just hook up my old systems and play them like that (though it would take up space I don't have). That's where homebrew emulators come in.

The only roms for games I "own" that I have, are games like Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean for the SNES. Trust me, if I could find them for under 150 bucks I would buy them in a heart beat. They'd make awesome additions to my collection.

[cal360]

Why is it rthat we have something that works it's blocked? Just so they can get more money from people who already own the games?

[the_eternal_dark]

80% of the stuff on the VC I do actually own... And still own. Why would I want to buy them again? Sure I'd be able to play them all with one little box, but then again I could just hook up my old systems and play them like that (though it would take up space I don't have). That's where homebrew emulators come in.

The only roms for games I "own" that I have, are games like Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean for the SNES. Trust me, if I could find them for under 150 bucks I would buy them in a heart beat. They'd make awesome additions to my collection.

From a business point of view (say you were Nintendo for a minute), how could you/would you believe that someone says that they actually own a game that was once released 5, 10, 20 years ago? Would you have your customers mail in their original copies of the games to have them redone to be played on a new system, which would take more time and money than needed? Or would you offer said customer a way to play the old games on the new console, for a nominal fee? From a business standpoint, it would be better to just charge for the service to emulate those games. From the customer's standpoint, why not give them an adapter to play the old games (though it would take up a lot of room).

If you already have the games and the original systems to run them, why not just use those? or emulate them on PC? The GC controller sucks for emulation (unless you bought the Hori snes style pad, which rocks). Or go out and mod a gamecube since they are dirt cheap.

Seriously though, $10 for a game is dirt cheap. Skip eating at those fast food restaurants for a week and you could afford the games via the vc.

Why is it rthat we have something that works it's blocked? Just so they can get more money from people who already own the games?

It's kinda like the reason why Microsoft doesn't like Linux. Because it's free and takes away business/market share (though realistically not a whole lot).


Seriously, the next person who bitches about pricing or that they already "own" the games needs to get slapped. This just circulates back to the discussion of modchips; its not that people really do want to run homebrew, its that most people play homebrew AND pirated goods. In the case of the SD Loader method, running "backed up" games you "own" that are also provided by nintendo for sale would technically be piracy in some countries. Check Nintendo's legal info site: http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp. Be sure to read the section on Roms, Modchips, etc. "Backups" are considered illegal because of the circumvention of the copy protection in any medium to copy the original data.

I own a number of "backed up" os's, but what gives me the right to complain about the manufacturer/developer that my backup won't work like the original or that certain things need to be checked before running updates or any proprietary software. Would I have any right? Hell no. It's a COPY. It's all legal issues, play fair or not at all (or find a better way to do so).

Anyone care to drop or close this discussion yet?