Lets Not Go Down the Wrong Path - Keep Brickers Out of Homebrew

[Bestwick]

I smell bullsh1t. I have a PS3News account and visit their site every now and then. I also downloaded the new firmware from there as it I happened to be browsing at the time that the news post came through.

The result? Nothing. My PSP is now running 3.52 M33-3.

Secondly have you people actually realised what they are claiming will happen is a physical impossibility? At no time can a ZIP file i downloaded from a site EVER modify itself without my knowledge especially when the contents are NEVER EXECUTED ON THE PC, and thus have no idea of my internet browsing history.

@zoson: Yes, I'm calling bullsh1t on your story.
@M33: You are going through a lot of trouble to claim D_A's work as your exclusive property which in itself is bad enough. How about concentrating on putting out the best possible firmware for the community rather than wasting time trying to win a pissing contest against other groups also engaging in this legally-grey area (reference to your laughable legal.txt file)

Finally I pray this news post is not an attempt by DCEmu staff, who are fully aware of the above, to take a jab at PS3News. I'm not taking sides...just calling it as I see it.

[LilSwish722]

Wait...would it REALLY brick the console? And if so, how would that work?

[blackthief]

there is no chance to unbrick? o.0

[Buddy4point0]

wrag, not sure you shoulda posted this. we all feel it but its going to bring about alot of flaming and hate. also liars just looking for some attention.

PSP1: Upgraded to M33-3 NO PROBLEMS
PSP2: BRICKED by the very same file that upgraded PSP1.

The file was obtained HERE at dcemu. Both PSP's were running the EXACT(and I mean EXACT) configuration of software/homebrew.

Finally, I have _never_ visited the ps3 site that is so taboo here. Flat out, M33 screwed up. Big time. If the bricker did what it was supposed to do, fine. But it's not, it's hurting people who think they are safe from harm. Personally, I'll never touch another M33 piece of software again, I'm already back running 3.40OE on my surviving PSP. A $170 brick is more than enough reason for me to ignore their existence, and tell everyone their software is garbage that shouldn't be touched.

This is bull$#@! M33. Your firmware is great, but an intentional brick is stooping to a level lower than plaguarism.

Immitation is the highest form of flattery, M33. Learn the meaning of this saying.

i completely dont belive you. if youve never visited the site then it would not brick your psp. it was prolly something you did like running youselft out of flash space from flash 0.

yea m33 shouldnt have done that, im sure they'll take it out and just like block it in future realises. this is kinda like fighting fire with fire.
if you see a guy pickpocket someone, and you pull out a gun and shoot him in the face, whos the one going to jail... this is the same man.

[Jelly4000]

I am with bestwick on this one. How can the firmware file change itself when the exectutable isn't even executed on the hardware that is supposed to "detect" whether you have been on a certain site.

Bull$#@! methinks.

When i got it, i thought it was a joke. I'm still sure it is. People are overreacting and making up stories, or attributing random bricks to this joke.

If someone can show a video of them downloading a file being downloaded from this site, then used on a psp, then it bricking, while the same file downloaded from the same site does not brick an identical psp, then i will believe them. But that is to put it bluntly - not possible.

The ONLY way this could even be remotely true is if M33 uploaded themselves a bricking version of the file to that site, and uploaded the normal file to the other sites. But i REALLY doubt that. The "bad" file would have spread as other sites mirror it, and M33 wouldn't be stupid enough to rule that out.

[cory1492]

First (and this is aimed mainly to you Buddy4point0), EVERY time you change files on flash0 you are risking a brick, especially the more sensitive files that any CFW updater will update (and especially if you have a custom theme that uses it's own edited prx's to work). I'm sure it doesn't happen often as these things are fairly well tested, but... if you don't want to risk a brick, do like $ony says and DONT RUN UNAUTHORIZED CODE, USE OFFICIAL UPDATES ONLY. Simple, no?

blackthief: your psp is not bricked. You probably have a custom theme or something that when the updater replaced the 5 files it updates, broke it. If so, use recovery to reapply your theme, or use the /PSP/RECOVERY/eboot.pbp option to reinstall a full firmware, be it m33 or other.
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Now, it is true. Certain data in the eboot, if modified from original content, will screw up something so 2 files will wind up corrupt from what they should be to work. The site in question is known to hex edit credits out of programs, which in this case directly affects the updater. Whoever edited it, saw the warning in license (see #2), ignored it, deleted it, then hex edited it (and likely posted it up without seeing if it would hurt anyone).

I confirmed twice yesterday with that site's edited file, it DOES brick, the only thing that was edited out was 90% of the text on the opening screen. I also posted around some md5's of the untampered with updater.
eboot.pbp
md5:B20E264B1E2042BE87EE361FE9DD8EBF
crc32:0B473377

Do I agree with hurting other people's investment while trying to protect your own and take a stand? In some ways yes, in most ways no. As I see it, there are three types this update were aimed to wake up, though...
1 - those who hex edit others work to claim it as their own (and other dirtier things besides which have hurt many)
2 - those who distribute "ready to install" packs with pics/icons changed to their own.
3 - those who aren't even slightly grateful for getting the use of (for free) likely hundreds of man hours spent in creating these hacks and testing them.

I know I for one would never want to see any other app produced with the free toolchains on an antivirus list. Brickers only justify $ony's and other's stance that homebrew should be pretty much illegal.

[cyclonus002]

WTF...? yeah...hold on, it's TALK at this point, right? or can it be confirmed?

[zoson]

wrag, not sure you shoulda posted this. we all feel it but its going to bring about alot of flaming and hate. also liars just looking for some attention.

i completely dont belive you. if youve never visited the site then it would not brick your psp. it was prolly something you did like running youselft out of flash space from flash 0.

yea m33 shouldnt have done that, im sure they'll take it out and just like block it in future realises. this is kinda like fighting fire with fire.
if you see a guy pickpocket someone, and you pull out a gun and shoot him in the face, whos the one going to jail... this is the same man.

I'll post shots tonight then. with my perfectly working clear case psp running m33-3 and my psp that turns on, and goes to a blank screen, then proceeding to do nothing.

If you look at my past postings, none of it is bs. If you read my post on this thread too, you'll see it's purely objective.

Finally, I work at a software company. I know how files and filesystems work. My point was there was no change in the file, it was bricking either randomly, or based on some other condition. Both PSP's were on M33-2 with the Applecor theme. Aside from the theme, there were no other flash0 mods.

The only thing worth noting is that one of the psp's is a ta-079 and the other is a ta-082, and it was the ta-082 that bricked.

[blackthief]

oh, much thanks ....i will try it, i dont know exactly how, but its good for me that u confirmed that my psp is not bricked

[thefanaticgamer]

wrag, not sure you shoulda posted this. we all feel it but its going to bring about alot of flaming and hate. also liars just looking for some attention.

i completely dont belive you. if youve never visited the site then it would not brick your psp. it was prolly something you did like running youselft out of flash space from flash 0.

yea m33 shouldnt have done that, im sure they'll take it out and just like block it in future realises. this is kinda like fighting fire with fire.
if you see a guy pickpocket someone, and you pull out a gun and shoot him in the face, whos the one going to jail... this is the same man.

i agree this thread is definately going to bring about a lot of flaming and lieing