Sony: Eye Toy has more potential than Wii Remote

[Malus Darkblade]

Another plus. Its harder to throw your hand through the TV, unless your REALLY into the game your playing and decide to rush at your opponent.

You know what I hate. those who believe themselves correct on all terms merely from experience with old technology or simply there gut feeling, and refuse the have themselves corrected. Read up on what you are thinking of commenting on, then comment.

From what Ive seen so far, it looks highly promising, and assuming you guys are right about the 3D recognition, using patterns, depth, height, and length, it looks like it could be far better technology than the Wiimote. Not that I have played a Wii personally, but reviews and the like give a vague impression. The problem that is clawing away at my subconscious is, its true no one did care about the Eye toy all that much, and developers are well aware of this, and have taken note to stay away from that area of gaming as much as possible. so even with all the new specs, and state of the art tech, are they going to dare put there money into it, and if they do, are the uneducated casual gamers going to give a flying monkey scrotum. I think not.

Mind I have not been this excited about a card game in along time. even if its Yu-Gi-Oh. I wonder if they will try to stray away from the linear and have complete movment of your cards without boundaries (well outside your battle area at least) so you can make a flourish with the card on screen, when online. Then again maybe not such a good idea, seeing as I would take the metaphorical "wii" half the time online.

[F9zDark]

why are you talking about candles?

Because that was Nintendo's response to Wii-mote read and accuracy errors. They actually said, use 2 infrared sources behind the player for optimal reading and accuracy.

But the only cheap infrared sources available to consumers are candles, may as well have said that.

[ICE]

i really dont see how the wiimote is inaccurate. my stance is still that if you cant use the wii mote well you're just not very smart...

the eyetoy could do more but it would take so much crap being bought that it wont happen.

[F9zDark]

i really dont see how the wiimote is inaccurate. my stance is still that if you cant use the wii mote well you're just not very smart...

Right. At a complete standstill, the cursor on screen jumps a good half an inch back and forth every second. Both of my friends who own Wiis got so frustrated with the FPS games they own that they stopped playing them entirely and play Wii-Sports or Cooking Mama.

If intelligence has anything to do with it, then Nintendo should not have sold a last gen console to a vastly unintelligent audience.

And again, it doesn't make a bit of difference what you believe. If you even had half a mind for science, you'd know that the Wii-mote's design is inherently flawed. Imagine if the government took Nintendo's rationale with the Wii-mote/sensor bar and applied it GPS.

Needless to say, there would be no GPS if that was the case.

[ICE]

um i find it rather naive to think that since one guys wii is screwy that they all are. i have had one since launch and the only time the cursor jumps around is with cheap batteries that are nearly dead. other than that it doesnt happen. the wiimote works for me and everyone i know so..

also they released a simple console because the market is new.

im done talking to you now though because your rude. you are incapable of explaining your side without insults. your undermining my intelligence and i dont like it. all i said was that the wiimote works great for me (and even my parents..) and you start saying i dont even half have a mind for science.

of course the government takes gps more seriously. gps isnt a leisure activity.

[F9zDark]

im done talking to you now though because your rude. you are incapable of explaining your side without insults. your undermining my intelligence and i dont like it. all i said was that the wiimote works great for me (and even my parents..) and you start saying i dont even half have a mind for science.

of course the government takes gps more seriously. gps isnt a leisure activity.

First off, you started with the insults.

Secondly, you completely avoided the point of GPS entirely (so I will take that as my point is correct, and the Wii is sub-par).

To determine the location of ANYTHING in 3d space correctly, TRIANGULATION is necessary. GPS device requires at the absolute minimum 3 (TRIangulation) satellites. With more than 3 for improved accuracy.

Had Nintendo's engineers even had half the mind for science they would have made 3 sensor bars for the Wii. But rather than spend the time and extra money making a console actually work without flaws (Nintendo's crappy wrist straps anyone?) they decided to make a cheap, POS that will earn them PROFIT (making them perhaps the first and only console manufacturer to have EVER earned profits on a console).

And I don't believe that crap about the batteries. You're a Wii fanboy, so obviously your perceptions of its flaws aren't perceived because you love the console. Science which dictates that triangulation is necessary, also dictates the fact that "better batteries" doesn't make something "work better".

[ICE]

lol yup you're right i insulted you first.. all i said was that in my experience the people who cant use the wiimote were just being stupid.

i avoided the gps thing because i was pointless. gps isnt a toy. video games are. your point is irrelevant. they also put more work into space shuttles too but theres no correlation there so no one brings it up.

do you really believe that many people would buy a system that requires 3 sensor bars? if ninty did that they would be in the same boat with sony.

im not a fanboy. a fan boy wouldnt say he wanted a ps3 but cant afford one. he also wouldnt admit that the eyetoy could do more but wont.

the wii could be better of course. thats not the point here. yes three sensors would be better. thats not the topic.

EDIT: hahaha you brought up the wrist straps? lmao the straps are fine if you dont throw the remote.. ninty didnt expect people to let go of the remotes..

heres what happened with the batteries too. i had rechargeable batteries and any time i plugged in the nunchuck the pointer would freak out. i switched batteries and it stopped. they were cheap i was dumb for using them.

[Shadowblind]

Because that was Nintendo's response to Wii-mote read and accuracy errors. They actually said, use 2 infrared sources behind the player for optimal reading and accuracy.

But the only cheap infrared sources available to consumers are candles, may as well have said that.

I've read various articles about the Wiimotes ability not even being tapped into yet. This goes for the Magazine Popular Science. The Wiimote is capable of far more then anything we've seen before in accurate replications of actual hand and mote positioning.

[Accordion]

First off,Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Calm down!

The Wii remote does what it does relatively well, the extra IR signals is pointless because the pointer is only used on the 2-D tv screen, and as can be seen in every application of the pointer, it is perfectly adequate for this use- detecting the left, right, up, down co-ordinates . It also has no problem detecting forwards and backwards movement due to the distance between IR sources. Coupled with the motion sensors, its a very capable system.

as i have already stated the Wii does not make use of real-time motion control, instead using abstract gesture based control schemes. While this method isnt the best for future prospects, or for pushing the boundaries of control methods, it serves perfectly well for the intended audience. So as much as a disappointment the Wii remote is to me, it serves its purpose and it also prints money.

[ICE]

Calm down!

The Wii remote does what it does relatively well, the extra IR signals is pointless because the pointer is only used on the 2-D tv screen, and as can be seen in every application of the pointer, it is perfectly adequate for this use- detecting the left, right, up, down co-ordinates . It also has no problem detecting forwards and backwards movement due to the distance between IR sources. Coupled with the motion sensors, its a very capable system.

as i have already stated the Wii does not make use of real-time motion control, instead using abstract gesture based control schemes. While this method isnt the best for future prospects, or for pushing the boundaries of control methods, it serves perfectly well for the intended audience. So as much as a disappointment the Wii remote is to me, it serves its purpose and it also prints money.

thank you.