Speculation over - the CFW Leak is Hurting Future Developments

[Murdock]

Had a good old chuckle when I read the article.

1) The author is clearly ignorant and out of his depth with regards to understanding anything code related or even indeed how to make a coherent argument.

2) Sony is fully aware of what is being exploited in their firmware code...they do not need the cfw source code to fix it, just time, effort and perhaps the want to actually do it. After all, we all know the PSP sells due to its exploitability.

3) Quite right. The M33 guys believe they have exclusive rights to the source code and are now upset that others might steal their thunder.

4) M33 is helping to keep the scene alive with their own firmware, BUT are clearly in it for the glory. If their priority was to serve the community the issue with their "bricking" firmware would never had occurred since nobody in it for noble reasons would try to punish those not involved in their silly little war.

Wake up people, stop kissing M33's ass and playing into their hands by believing their/and their mates' claims. Yes, they have taken Dark_Alex's firmware and improved it. Yes, it is the best cfw available, BUT does this exempt them from being criticized? Clearly some of you believe this to be the case.

While I was reading the initial comment on what was going on concerning CFWs and "leaked" source code of M33's releases PLUS the previous statements of M33, I thought exactly the same as you!

1. It is entire bull$#@! to believe that $ony does not know how the CFWs modify their Firmware to do what they do (e.g. loading ISOs, enabling homebrew to run on 3.xx firmwares, etc.). They know well how the hobby coders in the scene do that ... kids, these ppl. have employees who coded the firmwares and the PSP firmwares were most likely NOT they first job as coders ... d'oh! ... these guys getting money for making firmwares are no rookies ... and it's just dumb and illaterate to believe $ony needs the source code to reconstruct and comprehend how the "teams" (e.g. M33 and Wildcard) built the CFWs.

2. Every single time you folks cry like babies about the leak of the code you are only bringing up ONCE AGAIN a painful subject and add insult to injury! STOP IT, it's retarded and you're just making urself a fool. It's easy to kick someone lying on the floor!

3. the propaganda M33 is spreading about the source code leak being the reason for a possible delay of a release is crap. Anyone having one's head on straight should be able to know that major changes in the official firmware have to be understood by the CFW coders. Since $ony obviously has made some major changes, for WHATEVER REASON, they need time to get another CFW together. But this ain't nothing to do with the leak ... reason: look at point 1!

4. the reason why M33 seems to claim that the reason is the leak is unknown to me ... I can only guess, like Bestwick, that their huge success made them a little snotty. I mean of course they have achieved a lot, but folks ... don't forget that THEY also had a little help from Dark Alex, who gave them his code ... so ... "He That Is Without Sin Among You, Let Him First Cast a Stone" or maybe bettter: "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones". They have at least partially built up on other ppl.'s work, too ... Of course with permission, but hey, that's just another topic. That's about morality. And don't talk about morality in our today's world ... u know it's rediculous!

[specialist83]

i guess u muz be feeling really excited while typing out your tots...which to me is rather pointless other than hurting the homebrew scene even more...why not try to type sth to at least make this a better day?

anyway it's juz a casual remark...dun take it too seriously...

[Buddy4point0]

this is terrible, i wasnt even aware it was leaked.
now that sony has the code it might take a while to hack. guess we just gotta think of some new ways to hit it.

[cal360]

I was also unaware of the leak. This is bad for us and the idiots that released the leaked source should think over what they've done as this may cause a crisis in the scene if we can no longer update to embrace the new changes of the firmwares.

[Sonicboy 101]

Maxconsole

I knew it.
I hope all the leakers are aware of what they have done.
Idiots.

[jools]

why is everyone making such a fuss over somthing so small?

[cal360]

why is everyone making such a fuss over somthing so small?

It's not a small thing as sony has something to use against us now!!

[jools]

but they don't really need to know the cf's code to rebuild there own firmware :S

[Murdock]

It's not a small thing as sony has something to use against us now!!

They don'T have more than they had before ... they are able to recapitulate how the CFWs were done already before the source was leaked. It is correct that this "release" of the source code was wrong, but it did not benefit $ony ... why don't u folks get that?!
Maybe it made their work even easier, I might acknowledge that, because now their have the uncompiled code, but it's just ignorant to believe the originl "builder" of a software should be unable to understand the manipulation of his product.

I mean if some hobby coders can make CFWs, then $ony employed coders can EASYLY figure out the changes done by the CFW coders ... it's rediculous to claim this is a "bad day for homebrew" ... the only thing that was hurt was the ego of the hobby coders ... and now they are threatening you not to release any more CFWs ... and u just buy their words.
Of course it'd be very bad if M33, Wildcard and other teams would stop working on CFWs ... but it is their choice ... and since M33 is now famous for their very well done CFW, they just won'T stop ...

i guess u muz be feeling really excited while typing out your tots...which to me is rather pointless other than hurting the homebrew scene even more...why not try to type sth to at least make this a better day?

:rofl: sorry, but how exactly do I hurt the homebrew scene with my opinion? I think your claim is pointless ... it lacks reason! I certainly explained how I see things ... and I don't seem to be alone with my opinion ... so sorry, but you made my day better by typing nonsense -> amuses me :rofl: :thumbup:

[Bestwick]

I mean if some hobby coders can make CFWs, then $ony employed coders can EASYLY figure out the changes done by the CFW coders ... it's rediculous to claim this is a "bad day for homebrew" ... the only thing that was hurt was the ego of the hobby coders ... and now they are threatening you not to release any more CFWs ... and u just buy their words.

I would go so far as to say that Sony likely waited for the launch of the new PSP to bring out a firmware with any significant homebrew combating changes made.

The M33 guys, although able to add certain features to Dark_Alex's cfw, may not possess the coding skill/understanding of the core features of the firmware and thus may be unable to get around the changes due to this lack. Hence the excuses.

If you know anything about coding you'll know that it is quite easy to build onto somebody's code without a full understanding of the original code. e.g. The Quake3 source...how many huge changes have you seen in engines using it's source as a base? Not many I would assume, more likely just updates to the 3d engine.

I'm not saying that this is the case, but when you're presented with excuses that just don't add up you need to think for yourself and not put people on some sort of pedestal. I hope they are able to overcome the new changes and keep things going as far as new cfw releases go.