Dirty Tactics ahoy

[Gene]

This kind of stuff just disappoints me. I agree it is a very dirty tactic.

[3.40.Newbie]

I think you are looking at this the wrong way. Look at is as a sort of sponsorship, not a bribe. Sponsorship is all over the place, even on this web site. Why do you think there are those links at the top of the page for the 'Success HK' store ? I'd imagine they have negotiated some sort of advertising space exclusivity.

Compare it to, for example motor racing. Mclaren is sponsored by Vodafone. Their drivers wear their logo and give them some exclusive interviews etc. In return Vodafone gives money to the Mclaren team. Vodafone pay to have their company profile associated with Mclaren, Mclaren use the money to build a better car and team. And Joe Bloggs gets to watch the race. If Vodafone stopped the sponsorship, the teams would still race, but without as much money for developement, the team wouldn't be able to reach it's full potential and ultimately Joe Bloggs loses because the end result is not as good.

The vast majority of developers do it because it is a passion not for the monetary gain, but that said if a site is willing to sponsor a developer, thus improving that developers output, in my mind it will benefit the whole community

[Sterist]

3.40 i think you're looking at a lot of things the wrong way, and any one of which does not need to be explained or pointed out to be identified.

mass-exclusive releases greatly limits publication, and increases tensions on site relations in more than one way. all for greater site traffic / money -- also known as Monetary Gain. sound fimiliar? hope so because i am not going to post again about this and i do hope that you cease any strong feelings you might have for what they're doing....

[Cap'n 1time]

long post.

While I am VERY sick of this drama and will probably be posting a nasty letter in staff about it in the near future, I disagree. Bribery is not the same thing as earnings through ad revenue. When that site bribes other programmers for exclusive content they begin to gain money based upon hits.

We dont bribe, nor will we ever bribe any coders in hopes they will join our network. They are here because they wish to be part of the DCemu network and no other reason. The money wraggster earns is justified by his constant news posting and free hosting for any major contributor to any scene (not limited to psp). He offers a service and receives something in return with minimal interference from ads (though we all hate the ads when they are posted on the main page as news).

When you bribe coders with a tiny sum of money then all news sources link to you, and some moron who provides little to no service makes money for his half assed network.

Thus far we've tried to steer the scene away from some sort of business (and sites like PSPU and MC have never helped with this). That will only damage the "scene". Weve been around far longer than either PSPU or MC and we would prefer to do things the way they've always been done... with as little drama and greedy ****ers as possible. It is certainly a dirty tactic.

IF M is so interested in making sure our coders get paid they can donate.... and so can all of you!

[pakkman781]

Oh, come on, this is FUD bullsh*t. I frequent DCEMU, QJ and MC, and they're all great sites. I'll believe it when I see proof.

[3.40.Newbie]

Of couse Monetary Gain sounds familiar, that's why these sites exist in the first place, this site included.

People get paid to do exclusive interviews in magazines and on TV. That's not a dirty trick that's competition. And provided this site doesn't limit the availability to the public then the issue comes back to the mighty $$$. Site M is making some money through advertising etc., from the work that developers in this community are doing and in order to maintain that revenue they are willing to put some of the money back in.

Provided the software remains free and readily available then only the competition suffers, not the end user.

Make no mistake all these sites exist to make money, if one of these sites comes up with an idea that benefits all those concerned (except the competition that is) what's the problem ?
It's not like they are restricting the downloads.

The developers can't possibly post on every PSP forum so if you can post on site A and get nothing or post on site B and get a few quid for it, then I think it'd be a pretty easy decision.

Let's face it the only real danger involved with paying developers is that they'll use the money to buy beer and maybe kill of some important brain cells....

[ish420ism]

I agree with 3.40.Newbie on this one.
Hate all you want. If this means I'll get a certain homebrew app from another site, because dcemu got butt hurt and won't link, I can always get it from the source site. It's not like I'm gonna stop coming to dcemu for my homebrew news. Although threatning to not link seems like a crybaby move.

[3.40.Newbie]

The money wraggster earns is justified by his constant news posting and free hosting for any major contributor to any scene (not limited to psp). He offers a service and receives something in return

Is free hosting considered a bribe

[akuma2000]

I tend to agree with 3.40 on this as I go to MC,QJ and DCEMU a lot. Although I started with this site way back when I first got into the whole homebrew scene with my Dreamcast. I like all three sites since they each have different news at different times. Some times MC gets the news first and sometimes dcemu does so it's all good.

I don't really understand all the hate, I mean aren't all websites (at least major ones) out to make money? And how do they do that? they offer things that others can't stuff that distinguishes them from the other 50 or so sites. If this means recruiting talent to their sites through monetary means then what's the problem? It's not like they are saying that other sites can't link to the files or even host them on their own sites. If one site offers the coders a little compensation what's the harm? Seems to me it would attract more coders to the scene, and with that everybody wins.

It's not enough that the coders are bickering amongst themselves now we have websites doing finger pointing of their own. The scene is starting to become like a bunch of teenage girls whining about what the others are doing and saying "Did you hear what so and so did? I am so not speaking to them anymore." Why can't everyone just get along so that we can all just enjoy our consoles and homebrew without all the teenage girlie drama?

[ficksucker]

Doesn't our media pay people for exclusives on a regular basis? To the point of shelling out big bucks to be the first to have pics of some famous douchebag's baby?

So if you accept that, how can you be critical of that site, arn't they doing the same thing? Isn't this site a form of news media?

I'm not speaking for or against it, I'm just saying that if you accept this going on in societey on a regular basis, why is it wrong all of a sudden when this site does it?