Opera vs Firefox

[Chameleon]

@ Scarph- nah i wouldnt go above 35 or itll start to lag, it did for me, and i have a really fast connection too...

Mine is set to 30 at the moment now, so i would reccommend 30

Oh and id set the max persistent connection to 16 instead of 8.

especially since many of the tests shown in the links above work on individual images or scripting type things, which your hack (as you explain it) would not affect at all.

If you read my first post I clearly said it loads 8 images/scripts which is pretty much underclocked in a matter of speaking, because dial-up users cant handle all the processing of that many images... so for cable or broadband users this is not giving them the power they should have. Thus increasing the amount of images loads the page faster.

And I have used both Opera, and Firefox.. and with my hack i can gaurantee firefox is way more efficient in the loading process. When I was in opera it was way faster than firefox was, but i got tired of opera so switched back to firefox and applied this hack for the first time, and i know its faster... because now i dont even have to worry about a page loading because its already done for me before i can even think about it ( instant)


And granted there have been speed tests done, but ask scarph he knows it works...
and these "dumbasses" dont really think about hacking something to make it go faster, they just want their paycheck and go home, so theyll test firefox at its original installation, and opera as the same. so generally the speedtests mean nothing to me.
Frankly i am upset with you for taking other peoples word for fact when not actually testing anything yourself before trying to contradict my statement

[quzar]

And granted there have been speed tests done, but ask scarph he knows it works...
and these "dumasses" dont really think about hacking something to make it go faster, they just want their paycheck and go home, so theyll test firefox at its original installation, and opera as the same. so generally their speedtests mean nothing to me.
Frankly i am upset with you for taking other peoples word for fact when not actually testing anything yourself before trying to contradict my statement

o_O First of all, you provide no numbers. You say "it's faster" but what proof do you have to back it up? None. Run some of these tests on both Opera and Firefox on your machine then I can start to put stock into what you say.

Second of all, where the hell do you come off calling people you have never met "dumasses"? (It's spelled dumbass by the way) Two of the three links I posted are personal tests run by people, and only the one on softpedia would be in any kind of position to be being paid for writing his article. Of course they're going to test the original installations of each, but if you would actually read the articles you will see they perform tests with loading single images and rendering single scripts to see how fast each browser performs in doing so, and in both Opera is much faster. You say your hack affects the amount of scripts and images loaded at once, so it would not affect the results of these tests at all.

Last, upset with me? Yes, how dare I look for actual facts and quantifiable evidence while still keeping an open mind about the nature of some qualitative measure some random person on a forum told me. SHAME!

[Chameleon]

You know what I really dont care, you can continue living in your opera dream world.. whilst I bask in the glory of my wonderful firefox world.

And...you got me I didnt even click on any of those links because of my prior statement ( theyll test firefox at its original installation, and opera as the same. so generally the speedtests mean nothing to me.)

So what they dont get paid to do it...big woop
what im saying is opera is better at rendering images IN ITS ORIGINAL STATE!!!!

If your not a "dumbass" ( ha i spelt it right this time :P) then you would take certain factors into consideration.. yes opera does autodetect your connection but firefox doesnt.. then if you were smart youd manually configure it to the same configuration as the other, and not give firefox a ****ing handicap...

I know your not stupid, and i just figured youd go by your opinion and not what other people say... I cant count how many times ive relied on other peoples opinions, and it got me nowhere!!!

And again im not going to speed tests to prove jack $#@! to you, you can either take my word for it, do it yourself to see how well it works, or shove my opinion up your ass!

[quzar]

You know what I really dont care, you can continue living in your opera dream world.. whilst I bask in the glory of my wonderful firefox world.

And...you got me I didnt even click on any of those links because of my prior statement ( theyll test firefox at its original installation, and opera as the same. so generally the speedtests mean nothing to me.)

So what they dont get paid to do it...big woop
what im saying is opera is better at rendering images IN ITS ORIGINAL STATE!!!!

If your not a "dumbass" ( ha i spelt it right this time :P) then you would take certain factors into consideration.. yes opera does autodetect your connection but firefox doesnt.. then if you were smart youd manually configure it to the same configuration as the other, and not give firefox a ****ing handicap...

I know your not stupid, and i just figured youd go by your opinion and not what other people say... I cant count how many times ive relied on other peoples opinions, and it got me nowhere!!!

And again im not going to speed tests to prove jack $#@! to you, you can either take my word for it, do it yourself to see how well it works, or shove my opinion up your ass!

So basically your argument is that you're right but you aren't going to even try to prove it because you don't need to? Sounds like the typical argument for using Firefox to me.

[SnesR0X]

So basically your argument is that you're right but you aren't going to even try to prove it because you don't need to? Sounds like the typical argument for using Firefox to me.

Yeah, he's got you there

[Chameleon]

Yeah, he's got you there

Yeah you were finally able to respond from the first sentence you were able to understand

And no, basically i dont want to install opera on my computer because i believe it is dreadfully slow...and pretty much just GAY!! Call me a fanboy i think opera is so Fing gay!!

EDIT- and no, im not speaking from a biased opinion i am speaking from first hand experience with both browsers, and ive found firefox is better.

So if he chooses not to beleive me thats his choice im not going to make a full f'ing review just to please one person.

[kcajblue]

i like opera cause im used to it.

i hate using firefox cause i hate it and i think it sucks ass.

i dont care about plugins or $#@! like that.
and i want a browser that works good after install.
i dont want to have to mess around with a whole bunch of stuff just to get it running good.

[SnesR0X]

Yeah you were finally able to respond from the first sentence you were able to understand

And no, basically i dont want to install opera on my computer because i believe it is dreadfully slow...and pretty much just GAY!! Call me a fanboy i think opera is so Fing gay!!

EDIT- and no, im not speaking from a biased opinion i am speaking from first hand experience with both browsers, and ive found firefox is better.

So if he chooses not to beleive me thats his choice im not going to make a full f'ing review just to please one person.

More like the first sentence I gave a sh*t about
You do need evidence before fanboyism though.

[Chameleon]

i like opera cause im used to it.

i hate using firefox cause i hate it and i think it sucks ass.

i dont care about plugins or $#@! like that.
and i want a browser that works good after install.
i dont want to have to mess around with a whole bunch of stuff just to get it running good.

Good for you, you are an opera fanboy.. just as i am a firefox fanboy!

No matter what i say it would not get you or quzar to submit into the firefox world. Quzar on IRC said it himself hes set in his ways, and nothing i would do could change that..

So why bother recreating a speed test when the screenshots will just entertain him?

And you do have a point, you want a browser that works great from install thats your choice...
I was just saying Firefox is better than opera if you modify it, and if you dont feel like modding it then in that case i would agree 100% that opera is much better AT SPEED. but if you know what your doing and modify it, its better than opera...

So in other words if you dont want firefox than dont use it, i was just stating a reason that firefox may be better.. but even so it still wont change a fanboys mind.

If the shoe was on the other foot and somebody gave me a really good reason to switch to opera i would decline because firefox is my baby, pure and simple!

so what exactly would a speed test do? prove a point? make quzar switch? no it would do nothing so i see it as a waste of time!

@ SnesROX- yeah fanboyism is not really a good thing to have when trying to prove a point, but you try googling speedtest with that hack enabled.. you wont find it!
and im not going to make a speedtest because quzar said that would just entertain him because i was already on a quest to prove a point.. so what exactly would be the meaning of trying to back up my statement. if i did it it would be me trying to alter the results, or if i found someone else who did it ( which is near impossible) it would just be one persons opinion, and could alter from page to page?

[kcajblue]

like i said earlier, ive been using it for a really long time cause i was tired of using IE so i searched for a new browser and found opera.
ever since i started using it, its all ive been using.

my cousins use firefox and i hate it, it reminds me too much of IE.
but the thing is, they dont do all of the stuff you do to make it better than opera, they just install it and use the defaults.
and yet they say its still better than opera.