Opera vs Firefox

[pibs]

Even with the edited configurations on my firefox my speeds are the same as opera i see no difference, but opera's tab features are ownage, id be happy to make the full switch to it but only if it would have the same "ctrl+f" or "find" whatever its called feature as firefox where its placed in the bottom of the browser. I really dislike the little window that pops up on both ie and opera when doing a "find" command. if theres a way to switch this can someone tell me?

Edit: also when trying to access the "play now" feature on www.ijji.com games the whole browser crashes while on ie and firefox it doesn't.

Edit: Edit: found out why according to opera "Opera does not have in-built support for Microsoft's Windows-specific ActiveX technology or the VBScript scripting language." and so i got the neptune plugin still haven't really figured it out but according to neptune i can run on opera microsoft update. nvm im sticking to firefox the plugins are easier to install and ietab lets me do everything ie can(even ms update), while im still having trouble figuring out neptune on opera.

[kcajblue]

the only way i know how to use find in opera is to press ctrl+f or to press "." and then type what youre looking for.

[quzar]

so what exactly would a speed test do? prove a point? make quzar switch? no it would do nothing so i see it as a waste of time!

The point is the thread is supposed to contain a discussion over the two browsers in compairison. All you have done is shown a way to speed Firefox up, but that does not say anything about a compairison to Opera at all.

Just because I have no intention of switching to Firefox does not mean I will not entertain arguments as to which is better. I posted saying that Opera renders pages faster than Firefox and you said that I was outright wrong. I then posted independent benchmarks that backed up my statement, at which you berated me and claimed that your hack invalidated those tests.

I explained that while that might be true for some of the tests, there are many that would be unaffected, specifically all the ones having to do with the rendering of pages as opposed to the loading of sites (which was, if you recall, my original point). You called the people who ran the tests 'dumasses' and claimed Opera was 'Fing gay' (In my experience though, most browsers have only reflected the sexuality of their users. I've never had Opera take me to gay porn sites on it's own).

The way I see it, I have an argument while you have contradiction. Now I'm not saying that Opera will be faster than Firefox with this hack. Based on your explanation of it and subsequent followthrough, there is a great chance that it works nothing like you described. However, only knowing that it makes Firefox faster does not show that it will make Firefox faster than Opera.

Edit:

Even with the edited configurations on my firefox my speeds are the same as opera i see no difference, but opera's tab features are ownage, id be happy to make the full switch to it but only if it would have the same "ctrl+f" or "find" whatever its called feature as firefox where its placed in the bottom of the browser. I really dislike the little window that pops up on both ie and opera when doing a "find" command. if theres a way to switch this can someone tell me?

Edit: also when trying to access the "play now" feature on www.ijji.com games the whole browser crashes while on ie and firefox it doesn't.

Push the little glasses button under the trashcan on the top right. That will drop down an extended menu which contains the "find in page/find next" things (as well as other stuff). Now that you know where those are, you can move the to any other menu space in Opera.

[kcajblue]

i find it easier at least for me to just press "." and type what im searching for.

EDIT: about the ijji thing. i thought they still make you use IE to play.
cause i remember you cant use any other browser to play the games.

[Chameleon]

Ok whatever your point happens to be.. firefox is way faster than opera FOR ME... PERIOD

I stated the information to maybe change some opinions and help some while im at it.. god forbid!!

opera is faster.. firefox is gay... my hack doesnt work.. im talking out of my ass... i like to see little boys naked... it makes no difference i was trying to help because i was unaware of the hack for the longest time, and i was thinking of switching back to opera before i found this hack.. now im a firefox fanboy!!

So shoot me down, and everyone else who reads this forum just shoot me down too while your at it, and back his posts I DO NOT CARE... and for those who want to boost the performance of firefox dont listen to me because quzar doesnt believe it works based on nothing factual he has stated!!

He did state facts, and on what? the original state of both browsers.. and my whole case is dealing with this hack... i told you previously i agreed 100% that opera is faster than firefox in its original state.. so what exactly did you prove?
what factual information did you provide? NOTHING!!

Cmon quzar make a funny joke, make me laugh... because you dont have any evidence to back that im wrong :P

[quzar]

As I have said multiple times, I don't refute that your hack will speed up Firefox because I cannot. I also don't claim that your hack will not make Firefox faster than Opera, only that you have no proof that it does so, and so it is unknown. You however, started by saying that I was wrong that Opera was faster than Firefox because you can make Firefox faster. Your claim though is faulty because just making Firefox be faster does not ensure anything as to it's speed relative to Opera.

Simpler: I showed that Firefox<Opera (in rendering speed). You have stated that Firefox<Hacked Firefox. Even if you are correct (which I am not siding on one way or the other), that does not mean that Opera<Hacked Firefox.

Didn't you ever do any of those problems that go like: Timmy is taller than Steve, and Jimmy is taller than Timmy, if Bob is taller than Steve, who is the tallest? The answer is you can't know. You know that Jimmy>Timmy>Steve and Bob>Steve, but Bob being taller than Steve does not say anything about his height relative to Jimmy or Timmy.

[pibs]

oh ijji released a firefox plugin forgot about that but it also worked b4 that with the ietab plugin. btw thanks quzar 4 the search tip, now all i need to fully switch to it is a simple ie in opera plugin. cuz im still a bit confused with neptune

ima stick to opera it takes it easier on my system
these are the memory usages in my pc with both browsers using 3tabs with same sites

opera 18,552K
firefox 113,668k (with plugins off)

Edit: for opera's neptune it says on the opera support page to do this
Find the file "npmeadax.dll" in Internet Explorer's plug-in folder (it can usually be found in C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\). Copy this file to Opera's Plug-ins directory (by default C:\Program Files\Opera\Program\Plugins).
that file does not exist in my folder grr im so confused

[Chameleon]

OK then its basically settled, cause neither of us can provide factual information based on the hacked firefox compared to opera... nor did i care to win a battle! I was trying to help scarph increase his performance to see if it worked better for him afterwards, because it worked better for me!!

If i helped someone, then im glad i did
But arguing with you is not worth it enough to drag on this whole thing.. and the thread is being consumed by us..

final verdict..

Jimmy> Bob> Timmy> Steve

[quzar]

If i helped someone, then im glad i did
But arguing with you is not worth it enough to drag on this whole thing.. and the thread is being consumed by us..

final verdict..

Jimmy> Bob> Timmy> Steve

It saddens me when I feel someone walks away without understanding it. You were not arguing, what you were doing is called contradiction, and while it can be an essential element of argument, it is not argument.

Glad I could help pibster, I've never used the neptune thing though, so I don't know anything about it. No website that I frequent has ever been broken by Opera, so I havn't had to go looking for stuff like that.

[pibs]

oh i fixed it in case anyone has trouble with viewing pages

try this... install neptune, grab the npmeadax.dll that comes with it, copy it to the opera plugins folder.

// ==UserScript==
// @name Load ActiveX
// @author Tommy
// @description Replace ActiveX MimeType so Neptune can handle it
// @ujs:category general: enhancements
// @ujs: published 2006-04-01 20:00
// @include *
// ==/UserScript==

/*
* This script is granted to the Public Domain
*/

document.addEventListener('load',function(ev){
var d = document.getElementsByTagName('embed');
for (var i = d.length-1; i > -1; i--) {
if (d[i].getAttribute('type') == "application/x-oleobject") {
d[i].replaceAttribute('application/x-meadco-neptune-ax');
}
}
},false);

To enable UserJS you go
Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Content > Javascript Options > Choose a folder at the botton
To make the UserJS, go into the folder you just specified, make a new file called ActiveX.js and insert the code I just gave you.

then u can add the button view in ie

hope it helps