PSX Emu on the PSP, Possible or Not ?

[shizzle]

once again you cna't compaire the psx to the snes because of the difference. Because of the similaritys in the psx and psp, if we ever figured hardware accelartion, then psx could be possible at 222 mhz.

[quzar]

When I say "Ground up" I mean written with the PSP in mind from the start, and not a port of a PC emu...

you missed the point of what I said by 100%.

shadowprophet: all my stuff (for DC) is on www.screamcast.net . I have never released anything I have done for the PC. I'm far from the best coder around, but have learned a lot more than what I have yet to apply. My most notable work was the continuation of NeoCD/SDL as NeoDC.

[o2byzst]

Yeah but it seems if we were take to each generation of systems by hand we could develop emulators and improve on them while focusing on the next emulator for the PS1 & Sega Saturn generation.

I understand your point about the PS1 being similar in design to the PSP, but isn't the PSP a lesser version of the PS2? That was the way I understood it to be, that most of the games on the PSP currently are basically ports of PS2 type titles.

Besides, couldn't we use the "Bleemcast" emulator as a stepping stone to developing an PS1 emulator for the PSP?

[PSP_Newbie]

well, technically PSP isnt a "lesser" version of the PS2, but more powerful^^
the PSP runs on a 333mhz CPU and a 166mhz GPU, while the PS2 runs on a 294.912mhz CPU and 147.456 GPU, with the psp more than 10% more powerful
as for using Bleemcast, from what i've heard so far, it would be much better to create an original emulator from scratch then to use one from another system(ie Bleemcast)

[quzar]

well, technically PSP isnt a "lesser" version of the PS2, but more powerful^^
the PSP runs on a 333mhz CPU and a 166mhz GPU, while the PS2 runs on a 294.912mhz CPU and 147.456 GPU, with the psp more than 10% more powerful
as for using Bleemcast, from what i've heard so far, it would be much better to create an original emulator from scratch then to use one from another system(ie Bleemcast)

so, all CPU's are identical and the different brand names and 'architechture' types are simply all masks for the same CPU running at different clockspeeds right? ... no matter what anyone tries to tell you, clock speed is one of the least proper way's to compare powers of cpus.

[PSP_Newbie]

lol, sry, its late and im not thinking clearly, you're right on that, my bad^^
as for power, about how does the psp rack up against the PS/PS2 about? do u have a general idea?

[CannedSoup]

In fact. did you know that when the pc version of final fantasy seven was comeing out squaresoft was so short handed. they hired sevral homebrew developers to help finish it. (Homebrew Developers) This is actuelly acommon pratice amoung hugh software development companys. Think about this..
If you where running a software development company. And where pressed for time and money. would you hire the ivy leauge collage guys that cost a whole helluva lot more just cause they have (papers that claim there not an amature- Meaning in most cases they paied there way through collage) or would you hire a a team with the skill to get it done. the list could go on but rerto studios. The mertiod prim guys?? Yeah Got there Start in Homebrew.
The lesson Here is respect Skill..

That ff7 example is pure bull$#@! since it was contracted out to Eidios to port it to pc. Also CPU is a semi good judge of things. Yes they are amature coders. Some like Randy Linden or Yuji Naka are professoinals. The people who code great things like Zsnes are still amature coders(well not totally since Zsknights is a professional coder for contracted hire)

[shadowprophet]

Soupcanman Eidos was the company that housed its publication and sales managment. At the time Squaresoft hadnt done a whole lot of pc titles.But you need to get your facts lined up right ,,
Yes it was contracted out To Eidos. And in fact I believe it WAS eidos that in fact hired the homebrew developers to work on ff 7 pc. And (Ported) final fantasy 7 pc Was not (ported) Have you played this game? It Wasnt a port It Was Very Much The Same Story And plot Even the cg movies Where The same. But The Game engine Had To be completely rebuilt there Was no porting that. Its supported graphics At the time that Would have made your Eyes Bleed provided You had a video Card That Could handel it. So dont call somthing bull$#@!, untill you know what your talking about. A while lot of homebrew developers where working on ff 7 pc at the time. And for your imformation. It had to be published by a company Somwhere, squaresoft hadnt done a whole lot of pc titles. look into your facts before you lable them as bull$#@!. cause simple put you dont know what your talking about. Aperently.
Anyway no offence ment cannedsoup. But how can you call somthing bull$#@! When the information is Right out there and all you would have had to do was look it up? Eidos Is well known for For hireing Homebrew Coders from time to time. Team Silicon knights (Back in the days of crystal dynamics) up untill They where working on the very first blood omen legacy of kain game. I dont believe any of them had had finished collage at that time.

And quzar Thankx for the link Ive bookmarked it. Now I only wish I still had my dreamcast so I could check some of this stuff out I lost my dc a long time ago. But thanx For the link bro

[CannedSoup]

Soupcanman Eidos was the company that housed its publication and sales managment. At the time Squaresoft hadnt done a whole lot of pc titles.But you need to get your facts lined up right ,,
Yes it was contracted out To Eidos. And in fact I believe it WAS eidos that in fact hired the homebrew developers to work on ff 7 pc. And (Ported) final fantasy 7 pc Was not (ported) Have you played this game? It Wasnt a port It Was Very Much The Same Story And plot Even the cg movies Where The same. But The Game engine Had To be completely rebuilt there Was no porting that. Its supported graphics At the time that Would have made your Eyes Bleed provided You had a video Card That Could handel it. So dont call somthing bull$#@!, untill you know what your talking about. A while lot of homebrew developers where working on ff 7 pc at the time. And for your imformation. It had to be published by a company Somwhere, squaresoft hadnt done a whole lot of pc titles. look into your facts before you lable them as bull$#@!. cause simple put you dont know what your talking about. Aperently.
Anyway no offence ment cannedsoup. But how can you call somthing bull$#@! When the information is Right out there and all you would have had to do was look it up? Eidos Is well known for For hireing Homebrew Coders from time to time. Team Silicon knights (Back in the days of crystal dynamics) up untill They where working on the very first blood omen legacy of kain game. I dont believe any of them had had finished collage at that time.

And quzar Thankx for the link Ive bookmarked it. Now I only wish I still had my dreamcast so I could check some of this stuff out I lost my dc a long time ago. But thanx For the link bro

There is no point in arguing with you anymore because you have very lil understand of what your talking about. Your the same guy that said forget psx emulation we should be porting ps1 games to psp.

[shadowprophet]

And it can be done too.Just the suggestion of you claiming that psx emulation on the psp is a better idea, then direct porting, suggest you dont know jack squat about source development/SDK kits , as for argueing with you I have better things to do with my time. let alone Do I even wish to argue over a tpoic as silly as this.
but you honesly dont know much of what you speak of on these issues do you ?

Now im going to turn around and walk away now. Reply however you feel necessary to justify yourself cannedsoup. Just dont exspect me to reply, I feel our little debate, has reached undesirible levels of comunication.