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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    Goodness sake why would anyone in thier right mind need a disc with the space of a hard drive? I can tell you right here and now no game, this gen or any before us needs a storage capacity above 15gigs.
    Performing regular solid state hard drive backups is very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    Goodness sake why would anyone in thier right mind need a disc with the space of a hard drive? I can tell you right here and now no game, this gen or any before us needs a storage capacity above 15gigs.
    Naughty Dog have stated that Uncharted uses 24GB. More space is no bad thing, Kojima wants dual layer Blu Ray for Metal Gear Solid4.. obviously he should employ you as you seem to think you know more than him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irongiant View Post
    Naughty Dog have stated that Uncharted uses 24GB. More space is no bad thing, Kojima wants dual layer Blu Ray for Metal Gear Solid4.. obviously he should employ you as you seem to think you know more than him!
    And if Kojima indeed needs all that space, thats 35gigs more than Shadow thinks would suffice.

    Microsoft will learn very quickly, its better to have head room than be constrained by lack of foresight.

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    Um hello! Remember how Naughty Dog said Resistance was supposed to be 30GB, but people found out it was only HD video, so it could have fit on a 9GB disc, uncompressed! Kojima wants more space, not for level design but for Video and Audio, no developer has or is going to take full use of Blu Ray, you can have a 100+ hour long game on a BD or HD disc, so why is no one doing it? Because they don't want to!

    And we all know the PS3 can read the second layer on a BD rom, the 360 HD add on can read the second layer on a HD rom aswell. Its the third layer that poses a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    Goodness sake why would anyone in thier right mind need a disc with the space of a hard drive? I can tell you right here and now no game, this gen or any before us needs a storage capacity above 15gigs.
    Its only a matter of time when the bluray disc will not be big enough. Look at history CD-ROM not big enough. DVD not big enough. My first computer had a 20 MB hard drive and that was big for the time. I think Bill Gates said no computer will ever need more than 640 k of ram. Its only a matter of time until we need more storage. There will always be something bigger and better. Thats the way business is if things stay the same corporations will not get richer. There always has to be something better.

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    Too add to the debate: Read over the whole 1.1 Blu Ray Profile Update!

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    According to this comparison between the Blu-Ray/HD DVD releases of "Training Day": http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/trainingday.html
    both seem pretty even. But it was mentioned that the TrueHD Dolby Digital track was dropped on the Blu-Ray release due to space limitations. So I guess the maximum bitrate that Blu-Ray can handle just leaves less space for other stuff.

    But enough of that. The average customer is more concerned about price and selection of movies. Both formats have good exclusive movies. The PS3 is now $400 and HD DVD players now go for $200. The war is just starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elven6 View Post
    Um hello! Remember how Naughty Dog said Resistance was supposed to be 30GB, but people found out it was only HD video, so it could have fit on a 9GB disc, uncompressed! Kojima wants more space, not for level design but for Video and Audio, no developer has or is going to take full use of Blu Ray, you can have a 100+ hour long game on a BD or HD disc, so why is no one doing it? Because they don't want to!

    And we all know the PS3 can read the second layer on a BD rom, the 360 HD add on can read the second layer on a HD rom aswell. Its the third layer that poses a problem.
    And Project Gotham Racing developers had to cut a few things from their game because they maxed the DVD's space limitation.

    Sorry to say, but the capacity of DVD has been maxed. If they could have compressed it anymore, they would have. Obviously that was not an option.

    Had Microshaft saw this ahead of time, they could adopted HD-DVD for games and allowed developers more freedoms.

    And I am sorry, but anyone who believes this war is just getting started hasn't paid attention to any of the facts. Blu-Ray has consistently outsold HD-DVD for the last year, with a record of 9 to 1 sales last february.

    Paramount signing onto HD-DVD is only delaying the inevitable. With Universal's speculated departure from it, it will only be a matter of time before there is no major Hollywood support for the format, by which it will fail shortly after.

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    Ha, have you heard of a game called Mass Effect? One of the biggest RPG's EVER fit PERFECTLY onto a DVD-9! It depends on what compression technology they use, which is constanly being updated.

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