Portable Game & Media Player - Another Homebrew Contender ?

[Eyedunno]

Eventually, one of these companies is gonna learn from all of this horrific design though.

[Vega]

I hate portable systems with same features psp and this are identical when it comes to features i hate these kind of consoles nothing new at all, gp2x-f200 has touch screen which is ok and ds lite with microphone,dual screen,touch screen one best systems ever, if anything like ds lite comes out in the near future i would buy it.

Use of proper grammar and full stops could help alot here.

You say you 'hate portable systems with same features as the psp'. Your PSP is not intended to run emulators. This is. The makers of this handheld are capitalising and cashing in on a (sucessful) market which is already available (for non-profit) to the PSP Underground... or the 'psp scene'.
But people bashing these new handhelds is both repetitive and boring. I congratulate any makers of these new handhelds and hope they do well.
People saying "my PSP is better" should actually get their hands on one of these new handhelds and actually play the things before assuming your PSP.... with its crap d-pad and all... is better.

[Eyedunno]

Use of proper grammar and full stops could help alot here.

Alot? I think you mean "a lot."

You say you 'hate portable systems with same features as the psp'. Your PSP is not intended to run emulators. This is. The makers of this handheld are capitalising and cashing in on a (sucessful) market which is already available (for non-profit) to the PSP Underground... or the 'psp scene'.

And yet the PSP (and usually even the DS, for that matter) offers better emulation than the GP2X, a device "intended to run emulators." Go figure. I hate Sony as much as (or actually probably more than) the next guy, but I can still admit that the PSP is a fine system for emulation.

But people bashing these new handhelds is both repetitive and boring. I congratulate any makers of these new handhelds and hope they do well.
People saying "my PSP is better" should actually get their hands on one of these new handhelds and actually play the things before assuming your PSP.... with its crap d-pad and all... is better.

Control is one of the most important things for a handheld system. Even if you can emulate all the classic systems 100% flawlessly, as long as the control layout isn't good, you have nothing. I'm with you in principle, and I think it's high time we got a quality portable designed with homebrew/emulation in mind. Unfortunately, this isn't it yet, and buying one of these is encouraging mediocrity. I'm optimistic that somebody WILL eventually come out with a great homebrew-oriented portable, but that's all the more reason for me not to be too excited about things like this and the redesigned GP2X.

[JKKDARK]

And yet the PSP (and usually even the DS, for that matter) offers better emulation than the GP2X, a device "intended to run emulators." Go figure. I hate Sony as much as (or actually probably more than) the next guy, but I can still admit that the PSP is a fine system for emulation.

Really? DS and PSP have PlayStation and Sega CD homebrew emulators?

[Exophase]

Really? DS and PSP have PlayStation and Sega CD homebrew emulators?

PSP has a PS1 emulator, and it works a lot better than psx4gp2x..

No, it's not a "homebrew emulator", but that doesn't make it useless. If anything its presence has scared off other people from working on PS1 emulators for PSP...

You say you 'hate portable systems with same features as the psp'. Your PSP is not intended to run emulators. This is. The makers of this handheld are capitalising and cashing in on a (sucessful) market which is already available (for non-profit) to the PSP Underground... or the 'psp scene'.

No, these devices are portable media players with stolen emulators tacked on, and maybe a weak attempt to give it gaming controls. You should see some of the other PMPs with emulators on them - they don't have gaming controls at all but that doesn't stop them from shoving them on in an attempt to get more sales. PSP has an obvious edge over most of these devices because it was actually designed for playing games.

But people bashing these new handhelds is both repetitive and boring. I congratulate any makers of these new handhelds and hope they do well.

Congratulate for what? Bringing yet another copycat PMP to the market with serious design issues?

People saying "my PSP is better" should actually get their hands on one of these new handhelds and actually play the things before assuming your PSP.... with its crap d-pad and all... is better.

Maybe everyone else should stop assuming that PSP's d-pad is so much worse than everything else (especially the Slim's). All you have to do is LOOK at this d-pad to see that it's terrible. For most of them I doubt they're even connected underneath, they're probably just separate buttons.

[sukhi-2006]

I did not say that i like psp i don't like them at all in my opnion psp doesn't have many good games.
Why is it every console is releasing is without touch screen the touch screen makes navigating through screens quickly it's one of the best idea in a console, Nintendo has done good job putting this feature in there handheld, Now we have portable system at least they could of put touch screen feature which is very lame and no dual screen that's even bad the only emulator this missing is Nintendo ds which will never appear on it.
It would of happened if it had 2 screens but no it's like the other consoles this console sucks big time i'll give it miss same goes to psp and gp2x well gp2x-f200 is ok atleast it has touch screen if not dual screen.

[JKKDARK]

PSP has a PS1 emulator, and it works a lot better than psx4gp2x..

No, it's not a "homebrew emulator", but that doesn't make it useless. If anything its presence has scared off other people from working on PS1 emulators for PSP...

But we are talking about the homebrew, obviously a PSX emulator made by Sony will be better than any homebrew emulator.
By your logic, Sonic and Mario games scared off people from working on 2D/3D homebrew platform/adventure games.

[Exophase]

But we are talking about the homebrew, obviously a PSX emulator made by Sony will be better than any homebrew emulator.

Says you. Although commercial entities have made some great emulators the best emulators in the world have been done by enthusiasts. A homebrew author could do as good an emulator as Sony, there just weren't any who were trying that hard.

Virtually all of the information Sony has about PS1 is accessible to homebrew devs in one form or another. Most of the important information about PSP is as well. Contrary to popular belief homebrew devs can be just as talented as commercial devs. I'd go so far as to say that a lot of people programming for a living don't even have the same drive and qualifications as people who do it as a hobby.

By your logic, Sonic and Mario games scared off people from working on 2D/3D homebrew platform/adventure games.

That's a terrible analogy. Sidescrollers have a lot of individuality and offer a lot of variety. There's plenty of room out there for lots of them (and there have been hundreds, if not thousands made). Emulators are a totally different story. If one comes out that's substantially better than what you have it'll feel pointless to try to compete with it. One good emulator for a given platform is all you'll ever need.

Besides that, it's not a logical deduction I've made, it's a fact. I know two people who quit their PS1 emulators because of Sony. And other people have quit emulators because of competition as well.

[JKKDARK]

Sorry I don't believe anyone will make a PSX emulator exactly or better than Sony.
At the moment, PSP hasn't homebrew Sega CD and PlayStation emulators like the GP2X.

[sukhi-2006]

it looks like there are sony fan boys on this forum which is lame.
The ps1 doesn't have any interesting games at all it sucks big timer i would never want to see an emulator on psx, the ds games are far better than psx for one thing they are revolutionary and fuin to play, psx was only good when it was popular but now it seems out of date and very boring not only that the mega cd is another junk which isn't good as genesis.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles on genesis is far better than sonic cd on mega cd.