half life = half a game.

[Junixx]

Mouse/KB combo ftw. I gotta agree with bah on this one, its a lot easier playing with that rather than a controller (then again i grew up with a PC and playing games on it)

But as for the Orange Box, the 360 version isn't that great, you can only play up to 16 players on TF2 and none of the games get updates. TF2 has gotten many updates since its been released to help with class balancing and map balancing (ill show an example from cp_dustbowl later). But one of the most important parts is the 3rd party mod, a big one being FakeFactory's Cinematic Mod that link isn't to the newest one but I have to go right now so i just lined the first one I found

[gdf]

I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you Shadow!

I know HL2 seems dated, but then it is, it's 3 years old. It has 2 semi-sequels, each clocking at about 4 hours, so they aren't substantial enough for full releases. Portal and TF2 rock my socks off, very fun and original.

If HL2 isn't your cup of tea then you shouldn't buy it, but if you enjoy the game then it's a must.

[Shadowblind]

The original Half life was one of the biggest influences to other game makers to produce more 'cinematic' gaming, with real stories and characters.
Quake 1/2/3, Unreal etc didn't have a story/plot/characters really, you were a guy with a gun that kept spawning in different levels where you picked up more guns and shot everything that moved.

I agree HL2 was less ground breaking in that respect, at the time it came out it was all about doom3 vs HL2. I was in the Doom3 camp as a loyal Carmack fan but I was certainly shown up when doom3 was boring as **** but HL2 was great. It had some really cool uses of havok physics, nice gfx (perhaps not the doom3 wow factor but it wasnt just a corridor shooter) and great gameplay.

I certainly wouldn't call it a clone of every other shooter ever made, unless your comparing it to games that have come out after it (HL1) that have taken what it brought to the genre on board and expanded on it.
It was one step in the maturation of the FPS genre, HL2 may not be the latest n greatest thing any more but its still a great game IMO.

Portal rocks too

Half Life's "cinematics" may have been innovative, but they weren't anything special. In fact, because you could move around during them, it was extremely easy not to hear what you were supposed to do next. Other then that, it was Quake.

That was my problem with half-Life 2 as well. It brought amazing physics to game. but other then that, it was Doom 3 minus what made Doom 3 awesome, the atmosphere.

I'm annoyed with half-Life also because it made other people not see the game that REALLY was innovative at the time, System Shock 2. It was Half-Life and more.

Oh, uh, Half-life 2 is possibly the one of the most linear corridor shooter I've ever played. Halo 2 beat half-Life 2 in every way, and reviews and players show and know it.

[SnesR0X]

I looove portal but half life was a little dull for my tastes.

[Junixx]

Ok well apparently that link I said earlier was quite out of date, if anyone is interested though here is Cinematic Mod 6 Along with a comparison screenshot:

Spoiler!

This isn't just a graphical upgrade by the way, it has different models for Alyx and different musical scores to fit the mood of the game better

Hrm... technically it could be a half a game though because the story still hasn't ended XD though that'd be more than halves

[shadowprophet]

This thread is a great example of why we have such a great community at dcemu.
People can come in share their opinions about a subject and that person isn't met with ridicule and disrespect, rather they are met with intellectual debate and tolerance.

I believe dcemu has one of the most respectful well rounded communities in all the world wide web. I challenge any site to show up this community for respect tolerance and acceptance.

I don't believe Dcemu can be outdone.

[Junixx]

It might be by the The Ubuntu Forums it probably has the best and most helpful community I've ever seen (not saying DCEmu isn't helpful, though)

[ninja9393]

personally i though the game wasent the bad but not great

it was entertaining

[gdf]

This thread is a great example of why we have such a great community at dcemu.
People can come in share their opinions about a subject and that person isn't met with ridicule and disrespect, rather they are met with intellectual debate and tolerance.

I believe dcemu has one of the most respectful well rounded communities in all the world wide web. I challenge any site to show up this community for respect tolerance and acceptance.

I don't believe Dcemu can be outdone.

Sometimes it is, like this thread. Sometimes there are massive arguments, disrespectful users and drawn out battles with mods.

[BrooksyX]

Wow, I didn't know there was such as dislike for the Half-Life series. I personally find the game very innovative and I love playing it. But I guess thats one of the great things of the gaming world is that there are so many different games out there that everyone's tastes can be satisfied.