The real reason why Warner went Blu?

[Accordion]

These threads shouldnt really become 360 vs PS3 nonsense.

Blu-ray is the better format technically, yes HD-DVD can now be 50GB, but that is a stretch on the intended size, while BLu-ray is designed to be 50GB and can be improved by the same margin.

The PS3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market, the HD-DVD sales figures ignoring the PS3 as a standalone player is madness.

As for PS3 vs 360
I thought PS3 sales were nearing 9 million units… Anyone with the sense to look at year by year figures will see that PS3 is more successful, especially in a shared market with the terror of the Wii to contend with.

[DCergo]

Let me add:

Life-to-date sales of the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on hit 269,000 in November, representing a 3.4% attach rate to the 360 console itself.

source: NPD, story by Gamasutra

A far, far cry from 17 million.

However, each and every PS3, is a blu-ray capable, which Toshiba embarrassingly leaves out of their press releases when comparing sales. You can marginalize the PS3 all you want, but it's effect on the hi-def war is irrefutable and pronounced, and pretty much "won" the war for the BDA.

[JKKDARK]

BECAUSE MICRO$#@! MAKES PEOPLE PAY 200 DOLLARS FOR THE ADDON RATHER THAN MAKE IT PART OF THE SYSTEM.

How many people went out and bought the HD-DVD addon? No one. So shut the **** up with 360 sales, as it doesn't pertain, whatsof|_|ckingever to the format war.

Whatever, the PS3 is and will be 3rd on this generation.

[F9zDark]

Whatever, the PS3 is and will be 3rd on this generation.

*Borat Voice* HIGH FIVE!*/Borat Voice*

[DCergo]

Here's why warner went Blu, for those with obvious mental disorders preventing them from accepting reality. Sales ratios of movies for each and every week of 2007:



HDDVD didn't win a single week. That's just the US alone, where HDDVD had the strongest marketshare. In Eur/Japan/Aus, it's a horribly grim picture.

[F9zDark]

Here's why warner went Blu, for those with obvious mental disorders preventing them from accepting reality. Sales ratios of movies for each and every week of 2007:



HDDVD didn't win a single week. That's just the US alone, where HDDVD had the strongest marketshare. In Eur/Japan/Aus, it's a horribly grim picture.

But hey, the 360 is outselling the PS3!!

[Shadowblind]

Its not difficult to dwarf sales with a year head start :P

The Wii is doing that to both of them, despite it being just not that fun and coming out a year later.

Eh, from blu-ray to HDDVD, they all look the same. "High end detail" doesn't quite fit for formats that have had that since 1995.

Quick question; do those charts show number of PS3 and Blu-ray players combined, or just the player alone?

[DCergo]

Quick question; do those charts show number of PS3 and Blu-ray players combined, or just the player alone?

That's just the movies.

[jamotto]

Until one of the formats surpasses DVD, then neither is "winning".

With stories like these both formats have a long ways to go.

High-def player sales still just 10% of standard DVD

High-def hardware achieved huge Black Friday gains, but still lags behind the sales pace of standard-definition DVD players.

HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc stand-alone players sold 57,000 units during the week ended Nov. 24, the day marking the official kick-off to the holiday season. That contrasts to the 600,000 units sold of standard-def DVD players, according to market analyst DisplaySearch.

[DCergo]

Until one of the formats surpasses DVD, then neither is "winning".

With stories like these both formats have a long ways to go.

High-def player sales still just 10% of standard DVD

Uh, can we reasonably expect these formats to overtake an installed base of countless millions overnight? Otherwise it's not winning? So it must be losing? Are you implying everyone shouldn't bother or what?

I think anyone following the market is aware just how small the hidef marketshare is still. But we're talking about two competing *HD* formats, of which one *has* been winning against the other. Dragging DVD into comparison without a historical and economical perspective is being disingenuous.

It took 2 years before DVD players got down to $500. It took 7 years to surpass VHS sales (2003). A burner cost $2500. By comparison I can now get a 4x blu-ray burner for less than $600. Adjusting for inflation the hardware prices now even in the worst case (expensive blu-rays) are technically a deal. But DVD sales are softening and a market of 10% that was just 3-4% mere months ago suggests decent growth, HDTV adoption rates are increasing at a healthy rates which means there will be a steady migration to an HD format. Perhaps not fast enough for everyone's liking, but that why we have these stories to discuss today.