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    General games Video games 'linked' to NIU shooting; ECA issues response

    The Entertainment Consumers Association on Friday responded to allegations from that day that video games were somehow connected to the shootings at Northern Illinois University, where 27-year old Steven P. Kazmierczak killed five students in a lecture hall. Said the response, "Blaming video games for the behavior of the mentally-challenged is vile on many levels. And, as Generations X and Y mature, it is extremely likely that just about all of us have played at least one video game at some point in our lives."

    Perhaps unsurprisingly, the origin of the video game link can be traced to Jack Thompson, who was on Fox News the morning of the incident. The New York Post also quickly joined the chorus in blaming video games -- specifically Counter-Strike -- as a contributing factor to the shooting. Kudos to the ECA for being timely in their response, making a concerted effort to prepare against a chance backlash and sensationalism.

    http://www.joystiq.com/2008/02/18/vi...sues-response/

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    The fact that Clinton is as close to the presidency as she is concerns me, considering she supported Thompson through the whole "hot coffee" thing. God forbid he should get any more chances to spread his senile babble.

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    so it has nothing to do with the fact that its as easy to get a gun in America as it is to do your shopping..... right blame the games..

    ban the guns... the killing will reduce

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    In the words of Chris Rock, we don't need gun control, we need some bullet control.

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    it is extremely likely that just about all of us have played at least one video game at some point in our lives.
    That's one of the points I'd like to see someone tell to JT's face.
    I'm not going to argue that violent games can weaken sensitivity to real-life violence, since I find that to be likely in some form, but I do argue about violent games actually creating violent people. I believe, as most gamers I'm sure believe, that violent people play violent games because violent people love violence. Violent games might be their attempt to avoiding killing people in their anger, but sometimes the games just aren't enough to contain that anger. The simple fact that a murderer played violent games before he killed people isn't enough evidence to prove that violent games actually caused him to kill people.

    JT also needs to be educated in the games he talks about. I noticed he called Counter-Strike a mass-murder simulator. That might be the case for a game like GTA, but not CS. CS is a game where you kill other people who actually have guns and an intention to kill you, or essentially a war. Sometimes the objective is to save hostages or if you're on the terrorist team you're not supposed to kill your hostages.
    Also games (especially the games JT criticizes most) usually don't teach people how to properly operate and aim weapons, but someone who wants to find that out could easily find it from other sources or even by holding the real thing.

    Personally I play very many first person shooters and I find that ever since I started playing them regularly, I've become a lot more mature in real life. I avoid swearing and I avoid being physical or causing harm when I'm mad and I respect authority. That could also be because of other things that have happened in my life such as moving away from friends who had a bad influence on me, but going with JT's type of philosophy, there's no question about it that violent video games caused me to be a better person.

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    Some video gaming nutjob tweaked on GTA needs to run over Jack Thompson.

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    I was going to present a well thought out arguement here, but Mr Thompson does not deserve that much effort. Why can't he just slither back under the rock from whence he came and stay there?

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    This is complete ****ing bull$#@!! I live in America and the reason or one of the reasons this guy went nuts was because he had stopped taking his medication. He had a history of psychological problems that had nothing to do with video games.

    He was also enlisted in the Army in 2001/2002 for about 6 months and had a psychological discharge. Again, nothing to do with video games.

    Its pretty pathetic being an American citizen and seeing the gross misdirection of priorities among politicians. Things are going to get pretty bad if things don't turn around soon.

    But what do I know? I'm just a 20 something man-child who plays video games. I must be a part of societies deterioration too then huh?

    The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.

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    Another thing I thought I had to throw in there was that shootings happen everyday in the USA. Crime among illegal immigrants is skyrocketing. Its a chicken $#@! cop-out for politicians like this Thompson guy to exploit high-profile incidents like this to blame on video games while ignoring the more widespread problems plaguing the country. This sort of thing makes me want to be some sort of social or political activist and start a movement. I'm just one voice of opinions, but if many share my views I must not be crazy.
    Last edited by Veskgar; February 18th, 2008 at 18:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Klownes View Post
    In the words of Chris Rock, we don't need gun control, we need some bullet control.
    Also more wisdom words by the great Chris Rock, "What ever happend to crazy? What, we can't be crazy no more?"

    Anyone who has seen the Bigger and Blacker show will know what I'm talking about!
    Last edited by Mr Corky; February 18th, 2008 at 20:31. Reason: Spelling Errors

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    I just want to know who they can point the finger at once all the Shooter games have been ticked off of their "Shooting Video Games to blame this upon"

    Seriously though, there isn't any hard evidance that Video games are always to blame for these type of scenarios, I'm sure it would be better if they didn't just jump to conclusions...

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