Couple of questions

[MetaFox]

[quote author=Ian_micheal link=board=DCGP2004;num=1096668276;start=0#9 date=10/03/04 at 00:28:26]I think by now some one would of asked maybe even got sega's blessing on homebrew releases. How can any one say they respect sega with out ever asking permission from them to sell homebrew games and gain money from there hardware. I see no respect to them at all if you can explain using and selling software with out permission is respect-full let me know. the reason why I dont know how you can explain it really. Respect to sega by gaining money from there property with out permission is not respect-full thats why i gave up any idea of selling homebrew games.

I do respect sega i dont see how selling software and gaining money would be.

If you care to explain it to me i be very grateful.[/quote]I'll be glad to. It seems that you are misinformed. The independant Dreamcast developers have been in contact with Sega since the beginning, and some of the employees who were in high standing at Sega have actually helped foster the community as we know it today. John Byrd, who was the head of Developer Tech Support of Sega at the time, provided alot of the technical information of the VMU to the independant community, and at one time, Sega was even offering official technicial support to unlicensed VMU developers. John Byrd also was closely involved in KOS, and urged Dan Potter to choose a BSD style license for KOS so that independant software created with the KallistiOS library did not clash with the official release license, and thus not only allowed unofficial independant software to be released commercially, but also opened up the possibility for independant software to be released officially.

[Ian_micheal]

Thanks metafox.. Â*Yes i had been told other info from a few people. Would it not be possable to get a low budget lic officaly from sega for homebrew releases. Then trademarks could be used. Even if it was 50 cents per release to sega. Just sits un easy to me that they get nothing and did all the work.

[VampiricS]

Well i was reading this thread today and i thought maybe people would want to see how a completely different cover could be, so i did a quick template:

here's the template:


Here's an exemple using the neogeocd emu for that purpose:


Oh i added the DIRB thingy but i don't know if it was serious or not about it, so i just added it to see how it could look.

[MetaFox]

[quote author=VampiricS link=board=DCGP2004;num=1096668276;start=0#12 date=10/03/04 at 02:49:58]Well i was reading this thread today and i thought maybe people would want to see how a completely different cover could be, so i did a quick template:

Oh i added the DIRB thingy but i don't know if it was serious or not about it, so i just added it to see how it could look.[/quote]I like it. I also like the DIRB graphics. I was using one based on the ESRB graphics, that was top down, but I like the horizontal view better.

I do think, however, that we should start getting away from the term "homebrew" and start using independant Dreamcast software instead.

[VampiricS]

Yeah,i used that term mostly because it made a cooler logo using the 'H'.

[DCDayDreamer]

Firstly I think (going by the topic title) the couple of questions have been answered here (and a whole lot more) .

Now what about making a topic, or even a seperate forum section from this. I mean a sort of comp where all can contribute in some way to produce a standard homebrew template for the scene's cover templates.
The good thing here is no coding is required, which opens up the chance for everyone to contribute in some way to the scene.

I like the template VampiricS made, let's use that as an example to get the 'artist in everyone' out in the open - just don't throw in my example above, it's too much like the commercial counterpart .

[VampiricS]

Yeah, let's hope people will come up with something original! lol

[Ian_micheal]

That would be nice but what use is it when boob covers has over 800 covers and never a warning.

[DCDayDreamer]

I don't think anyone is worried about a warning, well I'm not anyway, it's just a case of another step for moving away from commercial to independant. Boob covers hasn't been updated in months, but I'm sure it'll still be there as a reminder of the old days.

As far as the use of it goes, we'll update all the covers at DC Evolution, the name says it all really - 'Evolution' .

[Saoshyant]

So, is that idea of the standard logo that could feature in both homebrew software covers and screen titles or in only one of those acceptable? If so, when can one start? I wish to contribute on this part, as my coding skills are bad and I still lack a coders cable, but if this can help the community, the scene, Dreamcast I am for it.