Chankast to Xbox Port Rumour

[Hola]

Chankast can already load Naomi games now tho. So soon enough people will be playing Naomi. And i'm pretty sure than Chankast will try emulator atomiswave games as they are 100% the same as DC games if you can emulate DC you are emulating Atomiswave.

[quzar]

And that means what? It only shows how much more their ethic deviates from that of the MAME team.

[Mental2k]

quzar, it may have escaped your notice but 99% of what mame runs is also warez. It doesn't make it excuseable just because some of these games are ancient. If MAME was solely for documenting hardware and didnt want to promote warez then whymake the games playable, why not just have it so it shows the game can run and be done with it?

Many of us also use games like beats of rage which contains a large amount of ripped sprites, how do you think they got these, by running warez roms in neoragex or kawaks. Fact of the matter is where you have emulation you have warez. If you say you aren't doing it for warez reasons then prove you can run them on your emulator, but dont let people play them. Otherwise don't complain about warez.

[quzar]

There are two types of warez. Those that may actually affect something commercially and those that cannot. The roms that mame can run have been held back to only those that are no longer made. This means that the company does not lose money due to mame while they are trying to sell their games. NAOMI and Atomiswave games are still made. There is a big difference between the two.

[Cap'n 1time]

[quote author=Mental2k link=board=DCPCEmu;num=1090323867;start=60#72 date=07/26/04 at 15:32:53]quzar, it may have escaped your notice but 99% of what mame runs is also warez. It doesn't make it excuseable just because some of these games are ancient. If MAME was solely for documenting hardware and didnt want to promote warez then whymake the games playable, why not just have it so it shows the game can run and be done with it?

Many of us also use games like beats of rage which contains a large amount of ripped sprites, how do you think they got these, by running warez roms in neoragex or kawaks. *Fact of the matter is where you have emulation you have warez. If you say you aren't doing it for warez reasons then prove you can run them on your emulator, but dont let people play them. Otherwise don't complain about warez.[/quote]


While you might be correct, it does not mean we should take any part in it. Sprite ripping is very simple to do without an emulator, whos to say that beats of rage used an illegal method to get the sprites. The whole point of this website is for homebrew, development, and emulation. What is done with it really isnt any of our concern, but generaly it was most likely not the intention of the developer for the emulator to be used for illeagal proceadures. Anyway, what the mods of the site say goes, and they say no warez. Lets hope that the Chankast team feels the same way so this site will continue to give them support.

[Mental2k]

quzar, DC stuff is dead, and sega realy aren't makin that much money from it anymore.

1timeuser, the sprites are illegal regardless of whether they used an emu to get them, unless they are given express permission by say sega, or playmore, that was the point I was makin.

[Cap'n 1time]

quzar, DC stuff is dead, and sega realy aren't makin that much money from it anymore.

1timeuser, the sprites are illegal regardless of whether they used an emu to get them, unless they are given express permission by say sega, or playmore, that was the point I was makin.

DC stuff isnt dead, people are still developing for it. If you felt it was dead, why do you come to this site?

That was not your point either, you clearly stated that they used emulators to rip the sprites. The whole conversation is based around emulators, not the legitament sprite ripping of games.
For mame its turned into less of a question of whats legit and whats not, and more into a question of ethics.
I dont think their is any problem with displaying copyrighted graphics as long as you dont claim to be the origonal creator of them. If that were true then the internet would be shut down by now.

Just because the company is no longer making money on it, does not really mean its right to use warezed roms.

[quzar]

[quote author=Mental2k link=board=DCPCEmu;num=1090323867;start=75#75 date=07/26/04 at 17:03:24]1timeuser, the sprites are illegal regardless of whether they used an emu to get them, unless they are given express permission by say sega, or playmore, that was the point I was makin.[/quote]

thats not true. the sprites are covered under fair use. The product is not being sold and is completely free, therefor can use copyrighted stuff like that.

[Kamjin]

quzar, it may have escaped your notice but 99% of what mame runs is also warez.

Would you like I post pics.. here's page 1 of a 4 page document called PCBlist.xls which is currently
in need of serious additions..
You were saying something about mame and warez?

2x BagMan Stern Vert
1x King Boxer Wood Place Vert
2x Super Qix Tatio Vert
2x Main Event Horiz
3x Gyruss Konami Vert
1x Tiger Heli ? Vert Char Problem
2x Scramble Bootleg Vert
1x Popeye Nintendo Horiz Minor Sprite prob
1x Traverse USA ? Vert
1x Bank Panic Horiz
1x Exed Exes Vert
2x Frogger Sega/Gremlin Vert
1x Phoenix Vert
2x Tutankhamn Vert
1x Scramble Stern Vert
1x WonderBoy Monster Sega Horiz
1x Space Pilot Vert
1x Terra Cresta Vert
1x Juno First Vert
1x Championship Golf Horiz
1x Espial Orca Horiz
1x Storming Party Horiz Bad Audio Amp
1x Q-Bert Vert
1x Centipede Vert
3x Galaxian Midway Vert
1x Zaxxon Sega Vert
2x Altered Beast Sega Horiz
1x Shinobi Sega Horiz No Audio
1x Golden Axe Sega Horiz
1x KungFU Master Irem Horiz
1x Bomb Jack Horiz
1x Scrambled Eggs Vert
2x Time Pilot Vert
2x Pengo Sega Vert
1x Mortal Kombat Midway Horiz
4x Moon Patrol Horiz
1x Moon Ranger Horiz
1x Ghost ‘n Goblins Horiz
1x Tetris Bootleg Horiz
5x Tron Bally Vert
1x Journey Bally Vert
1x TMNT Horiz
1x Quiz n Dragons Horiz
3x Pole Position Atari Horiz
1x Top Racer Konami Horiz
5x Gorf Midway Vert
1x Wizard of Wor Midway Vert
1x Donkey Kong Jr Nintendo Vert

[quzar]

he wont have any clue as to what that is. to enlighten you, that is a list of the arcade boards that kamijin owns.

btw that is an awsome looking collection.