Michael Bay Still Loves Blu-ray More Than HD DVD

[dmac]

I had to buy this one on DVD. I don't have HDTV yet but I would have bought this on Blu-ray either way. So far I own just one blu-ray movie (x-men 3). From what I heard blu-ray is out selling hddvd.

[turnerl]

Blu-ray all the way!!!!!!!!

[irongiant]

The Paramount/Dreamworks exclusivity deal is for 18 months so Transformers will be released on Blu Ray after that. Though i have to say aside from the special effects the movie is absolutely awful!

Blu Ray is still outselling HD DVD by a 2:1 margin. What amazes me is that Sony and Toshiba are working together on the Cell processor but can't come to an agreement on disc formats??

[Elven6]

is that right? how so?

you want a quick example? let's examine a clockwork orange, the exact same content (the same video codec and same bitrate, in terms of audio blu ray has pcm, that's what extra space can give you), but the hd dvd version is spread over two disc :< whereas the blu ray version is actually all in one disc.




ps. and just so you know the hd dvd has a maximum bitrate for video of 29.4 Mbit/s, the blu ray has a maximum video bitrate of 40.0 Mbit/s, I think that's a bit of a turn off, don't you?

Thats not HD DVD's fault, its the studios, besides the great thing about HD DVD and Blu Ray is it has made a ton of advancments since it came out. The only difference? These advancments are compatible on ALL HD DVD players EVER released.

[freitax]

it's the studios???no my friend it isn't, simply an hd dvd couldn't hold all that information in 30gb, but in 50 gb it could(blu ray), it's not the studios fault that they weren't willing to sacrifice the quality of the video so that it could fit in hd dvd, that's why you need the extra space!!!Who doesn't want more???More space, more content.

[Elven6]

it's the studios???no my friend it isn't, simply an hd dvd couldn't hold all that information in 30gb, but in 50 gb it could(blu ray), it's not the studios fault that they weren't willing to sacrifice the quality of the video so that it could fit in hd dvd, that's why you need the extra space!!!Who doesn't want more???More space, more content.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#Audio

So HD DVD can support PCM, and HD DVD does have 51GB, it was approved for production in August (Do a search on the forums, I posted about it when it was announced) If studios don't want to use it, then thats their fault. Now I know your uninformed and are going to say "Your gonna need a new player for the third layer"

Well guess what, you don't! HD DVD players ALL have some error correcting thing built into them, so any error generated would be corrected, meaning it will work just fine.

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9776981-1.html

Now 51 is better then 50, working on the oldest player is also better then buying a new one.

[F9zDark]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#Audio

So HD DVD can support PCM, and HD DVD does have 51GB, it was approved for production in August (Do a search on the forums, I posted about it when it was announced) If studios don't want to use it, then thats their fault. Now I know your uninformed and are going to say "Your gonna need a new player for the third layer"

Well guess what, you don't! HD DVD players ALL have some error correcting thing built into them, so any error generated would be corrected, meaning it will work just fine.

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9776981-1.html

Now 51 is better then 50, working on the oldest player is also better then buying a new one.

And other companies are working on bigger Blu-Ray discs. Whats the point? HD-DVD reaches 50. Blu-Ray can reach 200gb and companies have been working towards that.

1 gb more, 1 year too late, won't help HD-DVD... Now had they come out with 51gb HD-DVDs from the beginning, maybe the race would be neck and neck. But they didn't. And its too late to catch up now.

[csd-san]

Guys, just scroll down and look at the specs:

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/b...on-s-division/

HD-DVD vs Blu-ray.

Allow me a quote, if you will.

"Blu-ray discs are more expensive, but hold more data—there, that's all."

Great, now stop bickering about it.

[Elven6]

And other companies are working on bigger Blu-Ray discs. Whats the point? HD-DVD reaches 50. Blu-Ray can reach 200gb and companies have been working towards that.

1 gb more, 1 year too late, won't help HD-DVD... Now had they come out with 51gb HD-DVDs from the beginning, maybe the race would be neck and neck. But they didn't. And its too late to catch up now.

There is a difference, currently HD DVD owners do not need to upgrade to enjoy 51GB, so they can be released onto the market, and even the uninformed consumer can enjoy his movie without a hitch. Blu Ray upgrades, and people would buy new players, because the format was never really finished, so no one is really following a set guide line. I wonder how much it would hurt the PS3, if that happened!

[F9zDark]

Its the same way with Blu-Ray discs as well. With TDK making their 200gb Blu-Ray disc well before there were any BD players on the market (April 2006). Hitachi has 100gb and 200gb discs coming soon, both of which are playable on current players or need a firmware upgrade, not a hardware one.

So HD-DVD has still got nothing on Blu-Ray. Hideo Kojima's remarks of needing a dual layer Blu-Ray for MGS4 indicates to me that the PS3 is capable of playing multi-layer discs right out of the box, or that its possible with firmware.